Wednesday, September 22, 2010

Who's really saying what? bloggers spread the rumors

All might not be sunshine and roses for John Lloyd Cruz and sweetheart Shaina Magdayao. For the past couple of weeks, rumors have spread of the alleged “vaginal captivus” that stuck said couple. But is this really true? Family members, Close friends and ABS-CBN continue to denies the rumors saying that it is a malicious attempt to ruin their reputation. “Supposed” staff at St. Lukes says otherwise, saying they have evidence and even medical records to prove that something did transpire between the two. Who is truly right? As of now we can't tell, but one thing is certain - professionalism. Is something like this even supposed to be talked about right now? Why would the “staff” exclaim that they have proof and all the while delving in to the personal lives of the couple? Even if said issue was true, people have no business releasing information to the public. ABS-CBN denying the rumors (even if it may be true) shows that even if it is media it is careful in dealing with delicate information. Some things are just better left unsaid.

The following is a compilation of some blogs about this issue:

Acid's post in Pinoy Gossip Boy's blog,  September 10:
"Actually... Nangyari 'to.. Yung Boss ko dito sa office ay may pinsan na Doktor sa St. Lukes Taguig, yung mga kaibigan nyang Doktor ang humawak sa kaso nila John Lloyd and Shaina kaninang madaling araw... No need for names... I spoke to the Doktor himself.. wehehehehehe"

Krempuff7's post in Mykiru Isyusero's blog, September 10:
"its true that couple brought 2 st. lukes hospital coz i sow them may kasama pang 3 maids kadiri yahh actually nakapatong with their blanket"

Norhubez's post in Pinoy Exchange, September 11:
"guys i was duty in ER during that time, i saw shaina n jhon lloyd, wrap in blanket, pero that time nde pa nmin sure kung ano ang *******, we were thinking na nag tatago lang sila sa media, the only thing is magkaharap sila pero that time nde namin masyadong pinansin, then rumor started to spread na it was a case of vaginismus, we started laughing, kasi hirap paniwalaan, naka usap ko *** doctor na tumingin sa kanila, he smiled at me when i asked him about the rumor, but he never told me directly na ganun na nga nangyari, when i looked back, i think totoo *** tsismis, when i saw both of them mejo stressed **** sila, and we are all convinced na totoo tong tsismis na to, base dun sa way na pumasok sila ng hospital na magkaharap na my kumot pang nakabalot"

Christine's post in OneScoop blog site, September 15:
"last friday my mother told me he saw john lloyd cruz ,vina morales, diether ocampo in st.lukes and am just smiling because am not already familiar in the issue bcos i dont' have free period to watching television until my classmates told me now about the malicious issuue of the couple john lloyd and shaina i was shocked in the issue =("

Now, who's really telling the truth? 

source: 
Philippine Entertainment Profile

115 comments:

  1. guys dito tayo mag comment-comment. sino na andyan? send nyo din email add nyo. try natin yung live chat.

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  5. joane marie de vera here aka KAORI. email add- kaoridada24@yahoo.com and jmdevera24@gmail.com

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  6. wait natin yung iba di nila alam pano e. post nyo dito email nyo.. lets try yung live chat.. para pag sinama natin si mam di nangangapa yung iba. check your emails pagkatapos nyong pnost yung email add nyo. and always refresh your page. ok?

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  8. sa mga nagsend na ng email add nila, check nyo email ko.. tapos click nyo yung link. follow nyo lang kung ano mang instructions doon.

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  9. Net to. annmonetsigui@yahoo.com.:)

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  10. ako ay kelly~!! ^^** lovelyjej89@yahoo.co.kr

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  11. reminders:

    (1) di pa po nagsstart talaga ang conversation.
    (2) yung live chat trial pa lang para pag ininvite natin si mam di tayo nangangapa.
    (3) wag kayong magmamadali.

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  13. danielzhin188@yahoo.com-this is me, daniel! hahahahaha

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  14. SO FAR ITO PA LANG PO ANG MGA PRESENT SA LIVE CHAT NA TRIAL: CARL, KAO, KELLY AND CAI. YUNG IBA NASAAN NA?

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  15. ok na po ako sa lahat. GO SIGNAL nalang c:

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  16. I'm present :D don't know much about them. But people should stick to their own business. :P

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  17. RAM SEND YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS AND WAIT FOR MY INVITE

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  19. MA'AM TINA,

    THIS MARKS THE START OF THE REAL CONVERSATION. WE WILL ASK FOR ANOTHER SCHEDULE TO INCLUDE YOU IN THE LIVE CHAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH

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  20. gara magparamdam ka agad dito sa comment pag ok kna.

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  21. well personally i have received personal messages about this issue. so parang before pa pumutok yung news sa tv, may info na ko. but you think the text messages were true? what do you think guys?

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  22. I don't like John Lloyd and Shaina as a couple, honestly saying. But the rumors aren't enough for me to believe that the issue is true especially without enough proof or evidence.

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  23. there may surely be other cases of viginus captivus. i only became a issue because they're public figures

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  24. on my part, i heard it first from one of our classmates. the rumor was green and obscene. even though i'm not a fan of shaina, i didn't believe it that easy.

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  25. I want to believe those people, but I think I need to see a proof, more like a picture or a video, to believe it talaga...

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  26. I think it's true. Pero I don't really care if it's true or not.:P

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  27. Tska the issue is too sensitive para pagusapan ng media esp sa mga tabloids.

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  28. well actually it would be a lot better if there would be evidences, but i think that would be very hard for the hospital to show evidences kasi that's unethical.

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  29. I don't know who are they. i just read about their rumors. but i think the rumor is not true. because of they are denying the rumors, even other their close friends are denying too. and also think there is no exact evidence for proof that rumor.

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  30. ram! where's the MAN power? am all alone. :) they're just so unlucky unlike the AS band!haha public figures hwho deal with medical problems which are concidered disturbing

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  31. I agree with you Che. Very unethical.

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  32. I think the rumor is not the main problem, the problem is that the bloggers violate human right of these two celebrities, having a sex is that bad? I dont think so they are also humans, howcome they made a issue something like this kind of sensitive things? as a korean I can't understand.

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  33. Have you ever thought of that issue as a means of publicity for them both?

    Shaina has Precious Hearts,

    John Lloyd has Imortal..

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  34. It did catch my attention. Kasi I'm one of those people who are against John Lloyd-Shaina love affair. (haha bitter). but the mere fact na wala nga evidence, it doesn't support the rumors to be true at all. unlike yung kina Katrina-Hayden syempre that's unquestionable diba.

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  35. showing a record is unethical? I think made a issue like this is unethical.

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  36. yup, maybe we don't actually care about the issue. i mean we are not involved, what so ever. but let's look at this as a topic that we should talk about. the mere fact that this is happening and people all over talking about it, let's try to dissect the issue from different aspects. bakit sya pinag uusapan, dapat bang pag usapan.. things like that. LET'S NOT LOOK AT IT AS MERELY TSISMIS. LET'S ANALYZE THIS PHENOMENON.

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  37. hi guys regarding my opinion..i really don't care who's telling the truth the fact that shaina and john llyod is a a public identity so they are bound for any public criticisms. and if they want a privacy with that issue they should be watchful with their actions.

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  38. if the issue is indeed true, hindi na rin ako magtataka. I mean they are a couple and of legal age. just like what daniel said, having sex or rather making love is common. every real-life couple celebrities are doing it.

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  39. Daniel, I think because they are actors, they are public figures... Even if you're a human being, once you enter showbiz, every move you make is seen by people..

    I think Filipinos love especially when it's about actors and actresses.

    (my point of view)

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  40. if the issue is indeed true, hindi na rin ako magtataka. I mean they are a couple and of legal age. just like what daniel said, having sex or rather making love is common. every real-life couple celebrities are doing it.

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  41. anyways eto po email add ko formal: aljeceragrace@yahoo.com

    informal:grace_lovesrain@yahoo.com.

    sorry guys nahirapan tlaga ako makapag post

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  42. i agree what cai said
    all the people like what celebrates did..
    celebrates get attention from people like us.

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  43. in additional with what che has said, even if the media is asking proof/evidence from the hospital to prove the issue as being true -it will be impossible. since they are celebrities, they can pay the hospital to not show any evidence or rather deny the issue diba. pwede din makasuhan ung hospital since all records or files should be private unless needed in legal matters.

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  44. I know. People in the medical field should keep things professional :(

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  45. and yes, super nasesensationalize na yung issue. i think malaking fall back din ito sa hospital. kaya kahit totoo, feeling ko malakas ang loob nila na magdeny kasi makakasuhan nila yung hospital pag may lumabas na evidences.

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  46. the actors are couple. we cant be against what tey're hearts' say. if the issue isn't true, they'll forget about it. if it's not, it's gonna run and stay for a long time.

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  47. Yeah \i understand what you've said, but do you think that these two celebrities intentionally show themselves going to hospital for that thing? eventhough this issue is true, I don't think they did that intentionally, people made a mistake, we are not perfect you know, as a public figures it's kinda important to act carefully, but not this kind of sensitive and unavoidable circumstance

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  48. i don't really wanna take any side. i want to keep my opinion open to all angles. be open-minded sabi nga nila. actually, i don't really care if the rumors are true or not. like what grace said, since they are celebrities, they are open to public criticisms. it's up to them how they keep their reputations or names clean diba.

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  49. if the couple want to prove the public wrong, kukunin nila medical records. if papatulan nila yung issue ha.

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  50. i also believe that this issue has been so controversial because as one of the public identity, people are idolizing them like most of our classmates, they should be a role model and a good example. They should know their limitations as a couple to avoid certain controversies. Because this issue could also affect the filipinos( filipinas) as their image of being ''mahinhin'' or conservative type.

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  51. Nagiging sensationalized lang kasi may mga tao daw na nakakita sa kanila...

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  52. yes, i agree daniel. what happened was unintentional.. i feel sorry for shaina and john lloyd whether the issue is true or not. if ever that it's true, can you imagine how problematic, stressful and panicky that incident was? :D

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  53. though they are celebrities, they can make the mistakes.. they are not perfect people.

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  54. tsaka regarding sa mga interviews nila, it's natural to deny since maybe they are confident na walang maipapakitang evidence ang media. John Lloyd and Shaina are Star Magic babies. Anyone subjected to such malicious issue/rumors, syempre Star Magic will make sure to clean up the mess para di madumihan image ng mga artista nila. especially john lloyd wc we all know as one of ABS-CBN's bread winner.

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  55. and even without any kind of clear evidence they just rip the reputation of these two celebrities, who will pay for this?

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  56. tama ka carl, if ever na wala nga silang records, i think they could ask the hospital to release their records. i think that's possible naman if they themselves ask for it to be released. and panget lang dun, baka ibang hospital kuhanan nila ng records from kung saan sila narush during that incident. hehe!

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  57. Hindi ba may media black out about dyan? kasi "famous" sila?

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  58. correct ka dun sis kao, powerful din kasi ang star magic.. and what do we expect di ba.. di ka-proud proud yung issue, mahirap talagang humarap sa media at sabihing, "oo kami nga yung naka experience ng vaginal lock." hehe!

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  59. regarding naman dun sa hospital and claiming that they have their evidences..before they do that..they should think the side of the couple, if they will keep it confidential or not...because they are issues that needs to be divulge or not..especially if it will really afffect not only the people involved but the people that surrounds them

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  60. vaginal captivus. i've heard of it before already. some of my nursing friends said that it happens when the girl isn't willing to do "sex" or when she is not wet at all. let's not be green-minded. but if that is the case, who knows diba?

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  61. Pinaguusapan siya because they are both public figure, the issue is too sensitive and cases like these are new to the ears of the Filipinos.:D

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  62. there is one korean celebrty that she suicided becauseof the rumor.
    i think we have to minimize the rumor to protect their life

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  63. Hindi lang sila John Lloyd ang masisira dyan, pati pangalan ng StarMagic kapag umamin ung dalawa... :D

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  64. hahaha thanks boss. pinansin moko.haha well, we really should be sorry for them, and be thankful na hindi satin nangyari. lalo na mga couples jan! buti nalang single si totoy ngayon :)

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  65. right. madali ba yung aminin na ikaw yung nasa SCANDAL? hindi diba. besides, if they are not celebrities maybe they wont deny since there's no reputation to ruin. question lang dyan is ANO MAS GUSTO NG TAO? UNG SANA TOTOO YUNG ISSUE O HINDI.

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  66. tama ka grace.. actually kawawa sila kahit anong mangyari e..

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  67. parang si SHAINA lang naman pinapasikat nila sa issue na yan eh since di naman sya as popular as John Lloyd. ang masasabi ko lang, HINDI SILA BAGAY! haha

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  68. i like your point daniel. who would pay for this if this incident did not happen after all..

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  69. I agree with kelly, many celebrities in Korea committed suicide because of the rumor. I think it's better to cover their fault eventhough it's true. so if they committed sexual relationship then their vagina and penis got stucked, so what? did we receive any kind of disadvantages from them? NO. issuing this topic bigger make your country's image worse, better to minimize it. sorry for mentioning a country but as a Korean and as a debater I'm saying this sensitive thing =)

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  70. Yea. Sis Monet is right...

    Naging sensationalized kasi bago sa pandinig ng Pinoy ang issue nila, sila lang ata ung actors na pinoy na na issue nang ganian..

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  71. well kung yan ang way nila para sumikat hindi sya helpful..baka yan pa maging dahilan nang pagka bagsak nila sa industriya

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  72. i feel parang mas gusto ng media na maging totoo yung issue. Shaina wont be as much affected as John Lloyd will be. Hindi naman sikat si Shaina, c John Lloyd pati ibang istasyon hinahangaan sya as an actor. maybe the rumors are just made up by those who are against the relationship of the two.

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  73. Regarding dun sa hospital na nagcclaim na they have evidences, di nila pwede ilabas yon unless they have the consent of John Lloyd and Shaina. And I don't think na papayag naman yung dalawa na ilabas yon if ever totoo yung issue. Yung mga victims talaga dito yung dalawa, esp si Shaina.:)

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  74. ang nakakatakot ngayon, lalo na if its not true, filipinos are putting their fellow filipinos in shame. i mean, with all the technologies that we have right now, its so easy to start a fire like this..

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  75. thanks for agreeing me cherry =) haha!

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  76. we Filipinos are fond of issues like this, in short mahilig tayo sa mga SCANDAL. Let's face it! pag may ganyan, matagal natin'g pinag uusapan pero if common issue lang, bukas may bago ng pinag uusapan.

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  77. the problem is, on these issues does the media earn e. which is a downfall for people like them. everthing naman has a fall and an end e. nagkataon lang na ganito ang sakanila.

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  78. pagod na ko mag comment, yung ang totoo. mas mdali mag usap sa personal tsaka baka mas madami pa ko masabi. haha

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  79. naisip ko rin habang nag hahanap ako ng news about dito.. di kaya para sa publicity itong issue na ito?

    pero kung para sa publicity nila, bat kailangan pang umabot sa ganong issue about having sex pa?

    dahil ba bagong issue siya?

    kung un ung way nila para sumikat, lahat ng artista, ganon dpat ung gawin.

    :D

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  80. yes cai and monet different story nga ang kay john lloyd and shaina pero come to think of it...there are always issues of sex in the industry of actors and actresses..kung hindi sex video ganyan naman..if patuloy na may mga issues na about ''sex''..yung image nila lalo papangit...at bka bumaba din ang industriya ng showbiz kung may ganyan factor..lalo na catholic country tayo and still that actions is immoral

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  81. so you guys like to issue the scandal, but how about the person or people who are being issued? do you guys ever thought about their feelingS? ow.. imagine yourself as a victim, you cant have a fun with making a issue like this.

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  82. masasabi ko lang is kawawa yung dalawa if ever the issue is true. it's their fault di sila nag ingat. dibale if the issue is light and common lang like other celebrities' issues kaso hindi eh. this will ruin their reputations big time. but no need to worry, cause if that's the case they still have chance. look Katrina Halili right now, parang wala lang nangyari.

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  83. your right che..nakakatakot nga talaga...kaya for me what i'm thinking is people in showbiz especially showbiz media should regulate themselves in reporting...n wag na dadagdagan ang issue lalo lalala kasi

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  84. cai. pinaka mabenta ang "sex" issues. diba nga, all magazines have hese kinds of articles with them. hindi nawawala yun kaya un siguro inisip nila paraan para mas mabenta.

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  85. Grace, I dont think SOME (if not all) actors care about that anymore.

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  86. daniel no, not all Filipinos are like that. It is just being made into a big deal since it is about SEX. Philippines is a Catholic country just like what Grace said, so whatever is taboo are interesting to talk about. SEX is TABOO. that's why some love talking about it because they are curious.

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  87. SEX sells sabi nga nung isa nating professor na amerikano.

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  88. OK. IF THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO CAN PROVE NA TOTOO YUNG ISSUE, WHY NOT COME OUT DIBA? WHY KEEP ON HIDING? IF SECURITY AND SAFETY IS WHAT THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT.. WHY NOT TRY TO APPROACH OTHER TV NETWORKS? BAKIT HANGGANG POST, TEXT AND CHISMIS LANG SILA?

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  89. tama sis cai.. ang weird nga kasi we consider ourselves living in a conservative country pero dito mabenta ang 'sex'. hehe!

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  90. yes kao..i remember the case of katrina though its a different issue.still it tackles the main controversy of most actros are confronting...I also thought of Mr. Joel Lamangan he said in the seminar" WALA NA TUNAY NA ARTISTA" NA TINITINGALA NG SAMBAYANAN PILIPINO"...He's rightbecause most of the arist are ruin by the dirty issues

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  91. Sex sells. But if it comes at the cost of someones reputation I don't think it should be used. I mean thats the stuff of tabloids. Not national media.

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  92. yun din nga, what happened is a medical condition naman di ba? bakit pag may cancer, ine-air din, pag may ibang sakit diba.. kung totoo ito i think more than pag chismisan, rerespetuhin naman ng mga Pilipino e, they would just have to tell. kaso nga lang, yun ang nangyari, questionable pa rin.. hehe

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  93. can i ask po? until what time tayo mag popost ng comments?

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  94. ram, that's not even the job of tabloids e.. haha!

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  95. Maybe filipinos are so perverted in nature but they want to act like the "norm" less they be shunned by society too haha.

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  96. Hindi na conservative country ang Philippines, sikat na sikat ang SEX dito, punta ka ng Angeles, ang daming DVD na may sex,

    pumatok ang issue na yan, dahil may sex na involved.

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  97. Lol grr. I mean the way they handle this information its like a tabloid grr :P TGIF!!!

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  98. yes che your right...but most of the tabloids are writing the issues on celebrities..but if the issue could affect the public..they should know their limitations in publishing news story.

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  99. goodnight guys! see you tomorrow c:

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  100. okay for me,we just need to learn from this experience..that if someday we are fortunate to be in the spotlight we should know our limitations and protect our own identity...and if ever that in the near future as media practitioners..we should also be watchful in our own actions in reporting news.

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  101. OKAY GUYS, I THINK WE'RE THROUGH. THANKS SA TIME. LET'S TAKE OUR DINNER! SALAMAT! SEE YOU TOMORROW! :)

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  102. and me too..bye bye na po uwi na po ako house..god bless to every one and good night also..

    AS THE CLICHE SAYS:

    THE GREATEST GIFT OF GOD IS NOT IN NEVER FAILING BUT WHEN WE STAND UP ONCE WE FALL.

    SO FOR JOHN LLOYD AND SHAINA...IF THEY FEEL THAT THEY FALL BECAUSE OF THAT ISSUE..THEY WOULD ALWAYS BE A SECOND CHANCE... AND PROVE TO THE PUBLIC THAT THEY CAN STILL SHINE LIKE A STARS IF THEY TAKE THAT CASE A LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR BOTH OF THEM.

    AND NEVER DO THE SAME MISTAKE!!!

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